our wall and floor by our one kitchen window got badly damaged from water!!!! Mobile home air conditioning units can also be a costly repair. All interior flooring next to the outside wall remains dry. Can not figure out how to stop this from happening, as underneath seems to be ok and belly Pan is covered. Paul, I used an emoji and then the question following does not show up, just the moderation comment. Crystal Getting the old ones off while preserving them for re-use will take a LOT of time. I have a 1998 doublewide MH that I am getting ready for sale. Paul It takes just as much work to install cheap materials. It was laid at the time we moved in. There is an old joke that says “The first three letters of the word contractor are…” If you get bids, make sure they are bidding the same specifications. They use the gap under the doors as the cold air return. When I was considering this house, I went through it several times; there were only two soft spots, which the inspector pointed out in his report and walk-through. And if the insulation got wet do we need it all taken out and replaced. I have seen a circular area of a floor destroyed by a large plant in a clay pot that wasn’t properly waterproofed. Damaged floor joist or floor trust. They can sometimes be fixed (at least for a while) by crawling under the home with a wrench and tightening the lag bolts…, I have a 1995 Palm Harbor that has regular drywall in all the public spaces, but the vinyl covered wallboard in the bedrooms and bathrooms. What does that mean? Excellent comments and help! Given the work you are already contemplating, it would not add a lot of either cost or time. That way you can be sure you actually got the leak fixed and also decide if you really need to do the floor repair. Not everyone agrees with me. Paul I don’t understand why the soft area would be spreading though. Thanks Loretta. If you’re dealing with linoleum or vinyl, then you’ll need to make a cut around the outer edges of the room. You probably don’t actually need 3/4″ plywood. Do suppose that is the cause also? Along the edge of a bathtub the floor is mushy and just in the doorway of the bedroom near it. To the best of my knowledge there are no water lines leaking under the unit. Half inch might do the job, I just never wanted to be in a position where I was thinking “I wish I had…” Is this the usual practice? The bathrooms both have what looks like new partical board patched around the toilets. Do you recommend adding ventilation of some sort further back under the higher section of the trailer where I would have room to cut out and screen some areas? I not sure you need the tar paper at all given you are using waterproof plywood, certainly not over linoleum. leona kelly Hi Bobby, I will warn you is is surprisingly hard to fit large pieces into place. Mobile home park manager harassment is a significant potential problem for tenants. Homeowners sometimes are concerned that the home has … Any comments are welcome. Paul i had a drain line burst under my home about a month ago, though no water touched the insulation or floor boards, as the line runs along the ground. In the past year or so our floor has been having several places where it is soft and caving in. Every home built by Eagle River Homes is carefully crafted to meet—and often exceed—the federal Manufactured Home Construction and Safety Standards. We have decided to gut the home and redo the whole thing since we are having some issues with it. Don’t know if there is a need to get under the trailer and look at the heating vents where it goes into the flooring. Eagle River Homes offers standard floor … erik An overflowing refrigerator condensation pan. Copyright © 1818 US Mobile Home Pros | mobilehomesell.com. On the same note, you’ll also need to remove any trim along the floor’s perimeter. For a larger opening you might be able to get by with sliding a sheet of thin plywood under the carpet. It doesn’t take more time or effort (yes it is heavier) to install the best, so why not? To do it well you are going to have to remove & replace a…. Wide plank floors are … There is a soft spot about the same size as the one in the living room. I bought a 2000 14X80 3 yrs ago. Cabinets will come down to how much the extra height bothers you & how fragile the old ones are. It passed necessary insurance inspections but unfortunately, I did not purchase it. How many patches are you looking at in the kitchen area? Just not sure what to do. Can you get someone to crawl under the house and look for wet spots in that area? All leaks have been repaired and the dining room completely remodeled (torn up & replaced with plywood). If you are in a mobile home park you might ask the manager if s/he have any suggestions. (I’m definitely going to get a dehumidifier) Please advise. Paul Home Depot have cabinets….the wood seems to be a bit too heavy to be supported by mobile home walls??? It kind of depends on your budget and carpentry skills. I have about 450 sq ft of flooring with soft spots, so I may as well get it all done at once. So if I was replacing a vinyl floor in a carpeted home the extra height was not a problem.V Particle board will fail from water damage plywood would shrug off. Paul However, we live in Mississippi and do get a lot of rain. That shouldn’t be your floor, Lester Sorry this is so long. So the questions are on the possible moisture issue form ground clearance at one end of the trailer due to sloping land and how it was set to begin with AND the removal and reinstallation of the siding sections (kind of vertical corrugated aluminum look in what think may be 4′x8′ sections. Water heaters usually start leaking when they fail and no one notices until it gets really bad. It is about an 8 Ft by 10 ft area just outside the bathroom. My problems are in the Living room, Dining room ( on the other side of the double ) and bonus room next to the dining room. Has several soft spots of about 3′x4′ each in the floors. Felicia My guess would be a condensation issue from the A/C system. I could never see that it was worth it. Monette You might consider putting down some temporary plywood pieces and see how they look/feel. The most common place for damage is the bathroom floor and frequently the damage extends under the wall to the bedroom. Kathleen. Treated wood should only be necessary in places where it would be continually wet. Soft spots are less common in newer homes that have plywood or OSB (Oriented Strand Board) subfloors. My time and materials costs were no larger and I produced a floor I knew I would never cause problems. Mobile homes don’t have cold air return vents. Screws won’t work up over time like nails because the MH floor will have some degree of movement with use. I don’t know how much snow you get, but if trees/plants have grown up that make snow drift against the home that could be part of the issue. Complaints & Problems With Laminate Floors. You have fixed the problem(s) that caused all the soft spots, right? Some of the most common causes of soft spots include: water leaks ; repeated exposure to moisture; Therefore, if you find yourself dealing with soft spots, you might want to start by finding any sources of water that are contributing to the problem… Christy is there away to just butt up against door threshholes? Your tips seem appropriate to my problem. I assume the original floor is particle board. Is it wood under there, or particle board? It soaks water up like a sponge and the least little leak can cause bowing or warping. I beleive just weak particle board. Once you have completed the conceptual design, the builder will order the house from the factory. Assuming you are CERTAIN the leask is fixed I nver thought it was worth the work and effort of taking up the old floor. Could you use floor leveler (a concrete product) to fill the depression and bring the surface level? Anything that drips water onto the floor can cause it. Do you recommend treated or untreated plywood for the floor. Hi Andrew, If it is wet particle board and the you worry about how well the shower is supported, you are probably looking at removing it to do the repair. I always used exterior grade plywood so it would not delaminate if it got wet occasionally. Particle board is “famous” for falling apart at the slightest touch of water. What I found was that if there was the slightest amount of dirt, sawdust, dust from sandpapering wood or drywall, left on the surface the tiles would not stick. The area that has been wet was from where we used to bath my later husband sitting on a shower chair. Warped or uneven subfloors can cause significant problems when installing new subfloor or finished floor. Is there anything I can do? © 2020 Mobile Home Doctor - WordPress Theme by Kadence WP. I have a general question. Its located in upper WA State. To be on the safe side, always clean up water spills as soon as possible, and be on the lookout for developing soft spots in areas near standing water. The contractor told me all I needed to do was to staple the insulation to the floor joists, so we did not replace the belly paper. At first the sagging and soft spot was only by the dishwasher but now it’s starting in front of the sink but we cant find any other leaks. Hi Felicia, Any ideas on what this could be since it’s in the dining room and not near any bathroom, dishwasher….etc? we have a very soft spot about to cave just in front of the toilet. an very noticeable moisture on the floor. It’s not the most inspiring end to a project that’s gone wonderfully otherwise. I would expect it to reduce labor costs significantly because of the reduced prep time. If you do find water leaks, it’s a good idea to have them fixed as quickly as possible, since water issues are the bane of a mobile home’s existence. Of course, the floor must be the right size for the room you’re re-flooring, so you may need to carefully cut it down to the correct measurements. Perhaps the adhesives have gotten better since I last tried it some years ago. Half in would certainly hold the beds. Warping of the floor sheathing can occur when a hole in the bottom board allows moist crawlspace air to condense on exposed metal ducts. Sometimes it takes me a while to look though them. Don’t wait – today’s a great day for a new project! If you have carpet, it should be cut away. My husband and I bought a mobile home for retirement. Paul would plywood do the job??? Ceiling Replacement – Materials, Tips & What to Expect. Have you found a soft spot in your mobile home floor recently? Paul Hi paul, This week in our Ask a Mobile Home Expert series, we are covering questions about mobile home subfloors. Cheap and I didn’t have to worry about weight. You can be sitting in your living room, sipping your tea, and enjoying your new floor in no time. Hello Mr. Paul, I just read my email….glad you understood exactly what I intended to say…I will take your advice and use the better size wood….ok…here’s the next question, who do you recommend to replace the kitchen cabinets? If you are using your mobile home on a regular basis or decided to stay in one rather than a regular home, it is crucial that you take good care of it. If is reasonably solid I would just make sure the screws I was using to fasten down the plywood were going into the floor joists. Most sagging mobile home floors and soft floors, are caused by water leaks from inside the mobile home, like water heater leaks, leaky toilets, dish washers and just plain old water spills. I’m *hoping* that that seal and jamb and under-wood is compromised simply because we have 3 autistic children that do severe water damage to the bathroom all the time, and not due to a leak. Would you still recommend laying new floor over this of OSB or Plywood? Moisture Barriers Stop moisture from developing directly on the mobile home floor boards and will not allow the floors … Mobile home floors need attention just like regular home floors. What about when the floor “sticks up”? If you are going to do all the work why not use the best materials? The floor problem coming so soon after the A/C replacement seems really suspicious. New manufactured home purchasers are not always informed of the “settling” considerations at the time of sale. is that possible? These high standards offer our homeowners peace of mind when considering construction, strength, durability, and energy efficiency. hello i am contacting you all to see what you might be able to suggest about a moisture problem in our home. I am unsure how these vertical metal siding sections connect to each other side by side. To me it looked like a lot of work to cut out the old, clean off old glue/nails, install support along the cut edges, etc. You may have to get under the home to find the problem. Old abandoned Realtor signs for example. I have a mobile home that I have decided to replace the floor in sever sections. If you screw the sub floor down correctly you also eliminate squeaking. Since this day i have managed to pull up all the carpet in the entire house except one bedroom and have found no moisture except this one room. I know guys who lay out roofing felt (they are masters of cheap). Near tub and other places where the old flooring breaks away you can fasten wood strips to the floor joists the being them level with the rest of the floor. First, you’ll need to clear away whatever is covering your floor. Your mobil home floor is capable of handling any normal household item....if that floor has never gotten wet. The people said the daughter went out of town but left the tub running, The ENTIRE floor from the front room to the bathroom in drooped down and very soft. Installing laminate flooring in mobile homes can be more challenging at times. Thank you! Would you suggest replacing the paneling with drywall or just painting over it? Thanks for your help Photo by Amelia … Leaving the water running suggests there was a LOT of anger. Hi Leona, If it is two or three I seem like cutting out the soft spots and placing new plywood would work. Where I live, (NM) it is so dry I never had to deal with this. I have replaced the roof and the problem still exists. Doors and windows difficult to open. Also, the toilet is not solid, moves a little. Like the interior of … I have plywood floors in kitchen an bath the floors are swelling up please help Have hump in every room (not big) so doing all while tore up and soft spots from ware. Your comment brings up a lot of interesting issues. In other words, don’t plan to ever get the money you spend back. You will have to decide if that works for you or if the savings from a thinner plywood are what it takes to make the project possible. I guess it will come down to time or money. Repaired units are selling for 20,000 to 30,000. I use this as a camping trailer to visit a couple of times a year while fishing in the area with family. I would like to just go over the entire floors with 1/2 or 3/4 inch plywood, my concern is what about the threshholes to main doors, my doors are metal and can not be cut. Another common issue is if the plywood board is bowing upward, which can be fixed … I would place the plywood whichever way worked best for you. The footings require proper support from concrete or hardwood shims. The flooring is laminate. American Homes has provided Manufactured Housing to New York State for over 45 years. I currently live in a mobile home, the floors have multiple soft spots and I am wanting to replace the entire floor. Ultimately, that part of the process is up to you, so be creative! The most common problems mobile home owners face generally fall into one of four categories. I get well over 100 spam comments PER DAY so the software is set so comments don’t show until I approve them individually. Would the old water damage mess up the new wood. The cheapest is probably buying some wood paneling and cutting it in thirds. I was told that the floor could be floated using latch wire and leveling cement. Just confused. At the end of your re-flooring project, you don’t want to find out that your brand new floor is uneven. Some put down a plastic vapor barrier under the laminate. So…. Would you suggest working around them or going under? If the home's structure is not properly supported, the floors … Thanks for your help, Paul! The underskirting is NOT ventilated at all and really at that end of the trailer I don’t think there would be room to do that as there just is not enough clearance to the ground? It can be done several ways depending on your taste and budget. Unlike renovating a site built house, a renovated 1980 mobile home will always be an “old trailer”. now, a month later, my floors … A cracked floor joist or truss … It’s hard. At this point, you’ll need to remove your subfloor, one section at a time. Putting new flooring down over wet particle board with ongoing issues looks like a recipe for disaster. holly Is this the best choice for the long run or should I have the existing flooring repaired instead? Paul Paul, mary Loosening of the connection between the walls and the. Any help would be great!! B.H. Otherwise, you risk slicing into your joists, which isn’t exactly a fun new project you want to create for yourself right now! Laminate flooring is made from wood products, but not from solid wood. Paul I am going to assume the existing flooring is particle board. For example, if you consistently keep a pet’s water dish in one area, any spills that aren’t cleaned up quickly enough might begin causing problems. Bill Thin metal doesn’t make a bump you trip on. I have 53 boxes of new 12mm w/padding laminate to put down. I guess if you covered that place with quarter inch plywood & walked on it a lot the particle board underneath might break down and fall away. I’m wondering if we just cover the whole floor with new plywood, won’t the new stuff eventually get soft also? However, removing the old is a LOT of work. Should we just go under, remove the damaged wood and replace or will it be necessary to remove the entire shower insert? Does the airflow change as the furnace fan goes on and off? I have thick, rubber padded wood laminate to put down in that room after the area is repaired. Asking for recommendations from neighbors who have had similar work done is a reasonable place to start. Some “events” I have seen include: 1. I wonder though if your AC condensation isn’t draining properly and water is getting into the vents. If you’re reading this, chances are you’re interested in how to fix soft spots in a mobile home floor – and you’re looking into doing it yourself. I know that when I built floors by putting 3/4″ plywood over the old particle board & filled the seams with Bondo I got a hard, smooth floor that felt wonderful to walk on. It is all up with the black plastic but is droopy in the middle. just since December I’ve had to replace the entire AC unit and now my floors are getting very, very soft. we are looking at doing some repairs to our mobile home. You might try buying the smallest number of tiles possible and see if they work for you. I have a 1970 doublewide. If there are actual holes you might have to pull the carpet back and nail in extra supports to the floor joists. This helps a lot. I think this can be minimized by using a threshold strip. And here is where it’s even worse….cold air in the winter blows up underneath the carpet. To be on the safe side, if you notice soft spots developing near your washing machine, take a look underneath your washing machine and determine if it’s leaking. I am “assuming” the moisture causing the particle board to fail has been a gradual deterioration from humidity coming up from the soil under the trailer over the years on that end of the trailer that is closest to the ground? The only downside I could see is that the extra height may make a tripping hazard where new and old floors come together. I purchased an older manufactured home in December of 2015. In the end it comes down to: I purchased the correct size plywood but where it joins existing floor it is lower. I have a double wide that I purchased for $1500 for my first investor project. floor … If you have to pull back carpet, cut out the soft area, and put in new subfloor, it will get expensive. Nancy The dishwasher line has since been fixed but the floor is so soft that I feel like I could fall through it when I walk there (I am an average size girl). Paul You can be sitting in your living room, sipping your tea, and enjoying your new floor in no time. Thanks for any input and please email if any ideas. Thanks for writing, Newer Homes. I don’t believe in “weak particleboard” I think it got wet at some point. We were told our only option was vinyl sheets & i hate that & will not hold up to my kids. I own a 1991 double wide fleetwood mobile home. I’ve seen LOTS of water damaged particle board that looks like this Charlotte White in her garden in the Rainbow Rock Village Mobile Home Park. You should use a circular saw for this. Trisha Repairing the ceiling in new homes is quite a challenge and requires work that is best done by experienced people. CUPPING. We have multiple soft spots in the flooring that we have temporarily covered with plywood until we can get it fixed more permanently. You might want to look at my About your Home section for more detail about how the floors and carpet are installed. It took me years to find them, but there are companies that buy rolls of flat aluminum sheet and run it through machines that can bend the edges so panel sections can lock together. If you’re finding soft spots in your bathroom floor. I am disabled and was given a 1980 singlewide. Paul, dustie Paul Home … We have been living here for 13 years. There would be a bump which might be a tripping hazard I suppose. You want to maintain your home’s worth, beauty, and value, so you know you need to catch the problem early. The login page will open in a new tab. My husband tore up some of the floor and had to take off siding to get to the water damage in the walls and the joist on the floor are rotten too we are having a hard time trying to figure out how to re place it all!!!!! Hi Denise, There is, what looks like a “cold air” return in in the dining room ( 3’x4′ +/-) There is nothing hooked up to it. The sub flooring was good so didn’t have to replace any. Now, over the last couple of weeks I had a hump in my kitchen , currently vinyl. Considering buying a new manufactured home, modular home, or prefabricated home in the state of New York? Paul As I understand what you are describing, I think cutting out the soft spots and filling them in with plywood would be easier and cheaper. Before we can figure out how much a home is worth, there are a few things we need to understand. Could you fasten (glue + screws) a piece of 2 x 4 to the side of the joists and them so they support the new plywood at the right level? I think having an experienced mobile home A/C guy check it would would be a good start. The inside walls do not seem to be wet just the middle of the room. If this is an ongoing situation, and your budget allows it, you might consider fixing it once and for all by putting down plywood. Paul, Sheryl I think it will work well for you. i need to repair the sub floor of my 1997 doublewide i want to just go over the entire floor but can i do that in the kitchen ? I think the decision to cover the old versus remove and replace depends on the skills and tools available to the person doing the work. Hi Dustie, Well, gear up, because you’re about to find out how to make it happen! Buckling or racking of interior wallboard panels. Paul I always liked to use 3/4″. Particle board is more common and has more problems. In brief, if the guys…, Mobile home ceiling replacement Replacing a ceiling panel in a mobile home is not a job for the fainthearted. Paul As long as the old subfloor is in good condition I don’t see any need to put down plywood. Good Luck, Good luck with it. They are getting somehow. That could make the plywood feel “springy”. I would point out that particle board is not wood. A mobile home that does not have its footings properly installed can suffer flooring problems. Hi Kristin, we also have caved in floor at on of the doors. Paul, Sophie An overflowing flower pot. What do you suggest? I have no idea how anyone could think they would repair the floor from below. Normally if I have 20% or more damage to a room I replace the entire floor. The subfloor in my MH kitchen is buckling in several spots. Ultimately, that part of the process is up to you, so be creative! 1 st, The base sub-floor of these homes are prone to movement or future sagging. I have 3/4 plywood subfloors. Pulling a toilet is easy, so I would for sure go under it. Due to a leak that has now been fixed caused my extra bath floor to sink somewhat. Manning Would covering the area with plywood be sufficient or should I cut out and replace that area? I am tired of chasing this but i know it is not good for home to continue like this and also i would love to install flooring like i had planned to do in the beginning. Obviously, this is the most exciting part of the whole process, but there’s still some important factors involved in making sure that your new floor is installed correctly. Hi Tanner, Using too few blocks under the home will also cause problems. I have a 2001 doublwide mobile home which has brick around bottom. The savings in materials cost is to small. Unfortunately, I talk too much. My plan is to use the laminate in all rooms except baths. I have appreciated your commentary on fixing soft mobile home floors. 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